Legislature(2021 - 2022)DAVIS 106

02/01/2022 11:30 AM House WAYS & MEANS

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11:38:03 AM Start
11:38:48 AM Presentation(s): Budget Cost Drivers and Methods of Cost Containment
01:04:00 PM Adjourn
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+ Presentation: Budget Cost Drivers and Methods TELECONFERENCED
of Cost Containment by
Sandra Heffern, PhD, Effective Health Design,
Project Coordinator, Alaska Health Care
Transformation Project
Ralph Townsend, PhD, Institute of Social and
Economic Research
**Streamed live on AKL.tv**
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
           HOUSE SPECIAL COMMITTEE ON WAYS AND MEANS                                                                          
                        February 1, 2022                                                                                        
                           11:38 a.m.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Ivy Spohnholz, Chair                                                                                             
Representative Adam Wool, Vice Chair                                                                                            
Representative Andy Josephson                                                                                                   
Representative Calvin Schrage                                                                                                   
Representative Andi Story                                                                                                       
Representative Mike Prax                                                                                                        
Representative David Eastman                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
All members present                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
PRESENTATION(S):  BUDGET COST DRIVERS AND METHODS OF COST                                                                       
CONTAINMENT                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
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WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SANDRA HEFFERN, PhD, President                                                                                                  
Effective Health Design;                                                                                                        
Project Coordinator                                                                                                             
Alaska Healthcare Transformation Project                                                                                        
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Provided a PowerPoint presentation, titled                                                               
"Healthcare Costs and Cost Drivers."                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
RALPH TOWNSEND, PhD, Professor of Economics                                                                                     
Institute of Social and Economic Research                                                                                       
University of Alaska Anchorage                                                                                                  
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Provided a PowerPoint presentation, titled                                                               
"What do we know (and not know) about healthcare costs in                                                                       
Alaska?"                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
11:38:03 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR IVY  SPOHNHOLZ called the  House Special Committee  on Ways                                                             
and  Means  meeting  to  order at  11:38  a.m.    Representatives                                                               
Eastman, Prax, Josephson, and Spohnholz  were present at the call                                                               
to order.   Representatives Schrage,  Wool, and Story  arrived as                                                               
the meeting was in progress.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
^PRESENTATION(S):    Budget  Cost Drivers  and  Methods  of  Cost                                                               
Containment                                                                                                                     
   PRESENTATION(S):  Budget Cost Drivers and Methods of Cost                                                                
                          Containment                                                                                       
                                                                                                                              
11:38:48 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SPOHNHOLZ announced that the  first order of business would                                                               
be  a presentation  on budget  cost drivers  and methods  of cost                                                               
containment.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
11:39:22 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SANDRA HEFFERN, PhD, President,  Effective Health Design; Project                                                               
Coordinator, Alaska  Healthcare Transformation  Project, provided                                                               
a  PowerPoint presentation,  titled  "Healthcare  Costs and  Cost                                                               
Drivers"  [hard copy  included  in the  committee  packet].   She                                                               
described  the  Alaska  Healthcare Transformation  Project  as  a                                                               
cross sector  collaboration of payers, providers,  policy makers,                                                               
and  patient advocates  working  together  to transform  Alaska's                                                               
healthcare  system.    She  listed the  following  goals  of  the                                                               
project: reducing  the overall per capita  healthcare cost growth                                                               
rate to  2.25 percent or  to the consumer price  index, whichever                                                               
is  greater;  increasing  the  percentage   of  Alaskans  with  a                                                               
standard  source of  primary care;  and aligning  all public  and                                                               
private payers towards value-based  primitive payment models with                                                               
streamlined  administrative   requirements.    She   stated  that                                                               
Alaska's  healthcare  cost  in  2011  was  at  $7.5  billion  and                                                               
climbing.  She added that when  this value is adjusted for today,                                                               
it would be  closer to $9.3 billion, or $12,500  per Alaskan.  In                                                               
response  to Chair  Spohnholz, she  answered  that inflation  for                                                               
healthcare costs  in Alaska  is over 49  percent.   She suggested                                                               
that  Alaska has  some of  the  highest healthcare  costs in  the                                                               
world.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
11:44:28 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
DR. HEFFERN pointed out the  figures from the Center for Medicare                                                               
and Medicaid  Services, Office  of the Actuary,  on slide  4, and                                                               
clarified  that  the  graph  represents   these  figures  in  the                                                               
millions.   She  stated that  health spending  increased by  $6.4                                                               
billion  from  1994 to  2014,  which  equates  to a  371  percent                                                               
increase.    She  said  that  during  this  period,  as  Alaska's                                                               
population increased, healthcare  services became more accessible                                                               
throughout  the  state,  with more  available  primary  care  and                                                               
specialist  services.    She advised  that  health  spending  has                                                               
increased   because    of   changes   in    medical   technology,                                                               
administrative  expenses resulting  from  the  complexity of  the                                                               
health-finance system,  pharmaceuticals, low-value  care, chronic                                                               
disease, health  disparities, and social determinants  of health.                                                               
In  response to  Representative  Prax's  inquiry about  low-value                                                               
care,  she  referred  to  a study  conducted  by  Milliman,  from                                                               
MarketScan data.   In response  to Representative  Josephson, she                                                               
referred   him   to  Emily   Richie   with   the  Department   of                                                               
Administration.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
12:02:02 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
RALPH TOWNSEND, PhD, Professor of  Economics, Institute of Social                                                               
and  Economic Research  (ISER), University  of Alaska  Anchorage,                                                               
provided a PowerPoint presentation, titled  "What do we know (and                                                               
not know) about healthcare costs  in Alaska?" [hard copy included                                                               
in the  committee packet].  He  explained that the key  driver of                                                               
Alaska's high  cost of  healthcare is  the high  compensation for                                                               
clinicians, physicians,  and specialists.  Alaska's  higher costs                                                               
are not  driven by higher  utilization in the state,  compared to                                                               
the rest  of the country.   He noted that  the data in  Alaska is                                                               
disjointed,  incomplete, and  untimely.   He concluded  that data                                                               
deficiencies currently  make studying healthcare costs  in Alaska                                                               
difficult.  He suggested that  an all-payer claims database would                                                               
improve the economic understanding  of Alaska's healthcare costs.                                                               
To determine future policy decisions,  he advised establishing an                                                               
ongoing process to analyze and  understand the state's healthcare                                                               
data.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
12:09:05 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
DR. TOWNSEND, pointing out slide 2  and slide 3, stated this data                                                               
confirms that  Alaska has  the most  expensive healthcare  in the                                                               
country.  He  stated that professional services  drive this cost,                                                               
as   physician    rates   in   Alaska   stand    out   as   being                                                               
disproportionately  high.   While all  physicians'  rates have  a                                                               
high ratio relative to the  rest of the country, orthopedists and                                                               
cardiologists  have the  highest  rates.   According to  Milliman                                                               
MarketScan data  from 2009, Medicare utilization  rates in Alaska                                                               
are  comparable  to  Idaho,  Washington,  Hawaii,  North  Dakota,                                                               
Oregon,  and Wyoming.   Commercial  utilization in  state's urban                                                               
areas is also comparable to  these other states, while commercial                                                               
utilization in  non-urban areas  is higher  in Alaska.   Salaries                                                               
for  healthcare professionals,  except  for those  who are  self-                                                               
employed,  were 100  percent  to 110  percent  of the  comparison                                                               
states.    Hospital  occupancy  rates were  lower  in  Alaska  in                                                               
general.   He  stated that  ISER does  not have  the capacity  to                                                               
provide an  ongoing examination of  the data sets.   He explained                                                               
that a  study performed  in 2018 found  the 80th  percentile rule                                                               
has impacted  Alaska's healthcare  expenditures.  The  results of                                                               
the study  showed that  the rule  "jarred" the  financial change.                                                               
Prior to 2004,  before the rule was  implemented, health expenses                                                               
in Alaska  had been  comparable to other  places in  the country;                                                               
however,  after the  enactment  of the  80th  percentile rule,  a                                                               
divergence occurred, and  healthcare costs in the  state grew 1.5                                                               
percent  to 2  percent more  than  the rest  of the  nation.   He                                                               
explained  that the  80th percentile  rule was  enacted with  the                                                               
intent of preventing surprise legislation.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
12:30:30 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
DR. TOWNSEND  stated that there  are some problems with  the data                                                               
used in  the study.   He emphasized  the difficulty  in acquiring                                                               
adequate   data  for   research   purposes.     In  response   to                                                               
Representative  Eastman,  he  mentioned  that  prescription  drug                                                               
prices are  comparable to those  in the  Lower 48.   Also, Alaska                                                               
spends  considerably less  on nursing  home care  because of  the                                                               
relatively  young population.    He  suggested to  Representative                                                               
Schrage that  an all-payer  claims database  is the  most obvious                                                               
way to  create an ongoing, consistent,  and comprehensive series.                                                               
With  an  all-payer claims  database,  Alaska  would be  able  to                                                               
better understand and plan for  healthcare costs and quality.  He                                                               
stated  that  consistent data  over  time  will help  researchers                                                               
calculate the impacts of legislative changes.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
12:43:26 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
DR.  TOWNSEND cautioned  the committee  that  there are  numerous                                                               
cost drivers  creating more than one  issue.  Moving to  slide 8,                                                               
he  discussed   options,  including   integration  of   data  for                                                               
comprehensive  analytics and  policy  recommendations, models  of                                                               
care  delivery, structured  collaboration between  clinicians and                                                               
hospitals,  clinically   integrated  networks,   and  alternative                                                               
payment structures.   The  data suggests  that better-coordinated                                                               
care  can lead  to efficiencies  and improve  the experience  for                                                               
both the clinician and the patient.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
DR.  TOWNSEND   stated  that  passed  legislation   provided  for                                                               
coordinated-care demonstration projects  to be implemented around                                                               
the state.  One model created  a network of providers with a per-                                                               
member fee.   Another model  is a clinically  integrated network,                                                               
which  is  a  structured  collaboration  between  physicians  and                                                               
hospitals.    This  creates   clinical  initiatives  designed  to                                                               
improve  the quality  and efficiency  of  healthcare services  by                                                               
removing   barriers  to   patient  care   coordination,  allowing                                                               
providers  to   share  infrastructure  while   maintaining  their                                                               
independence, and  rewarding quality.   He stated that  there are                                                               
two integrated networks developing in Anchorage.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
DR.  TOWNSEND stated  that alternative  payment structures  use a                                                               
reference  price  developed  either  from  a  trend  analysis  or                                                               
Medicare reimbursement rates.  He explained that, for reference-                                                                
based pricing,  health plans determine  providers' reimbursement,                                                               
while,  for an  all-payer rate  setting, payers  agree to  common                                                               
prices and  price increases set administratively  through an all-                                                               
payer model.   He stated that reimbursement  rates would mitigate                                                               
price  discrimination  and  reduce  the  administrative  overhead                                                               
associated  with rate  negotiations,  while maintaining  consumer                                                               
choice.    He stated  that  data  analysis to  understand  policy                                                               
impacts is a  key to sustainable reform, as  healthcare reform is                                                               
a long road which involves continuity and focus.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
12:52:40 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
DR. TOWNSEND  concluded that understanding  costs and  drivers is                                                               
complicated  and healthcare  reform is  an ongoing  process.   In                                                               
response to Representative Wool, he  deferred the question to the                                                               
Director of  Insurance, Lori Wing-Heier,  and mentioned  that the                                                               
80th percentile  rule helped to  drive up costs of  healthcare in                                                               
Alaska with  out-of-network providers.   Over the last  few years                                                               
more providers have been brought  in-network, which has helped to                                                               
moderate costs.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
DR. TOWNSEND  confirmed that  the negotiations  between providers                                                               
and  health  insurance  networks   are  influenced  by  the  80th                                                               
percentile rule  which applies to  commercial insurance  and does                                                               
not  apply  to  employer  self-insured  programs.    Self-insured                                                               
programs have increasingly negotiated  network terms that are not                                                               
marked by the 80th percentile rule.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:04:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no further business before the committee, the House                                                                 
Special Committee on Ways and Means meeting was adjourned at                                                                    
1:04 p.m.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
Alaska Healthcare Transformation Project Presentation, 2.1.22.pdf HW&M 2/1/2022 11:30:00 AM
ISER Presentation, 2.1.22.pdf HW&M 2/1/2022 11:30:00 AM
Sandra Heffern Testimony, 2.1.22.pdf HW&M 2/1/2022 11:30:00 AM